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I read somewhere that men use love to buy sex and women use sex to buy love. Is that true? If it's true, what make us so diffenrent? What are those differences that sometimes atttract us and sometimes separate us. Are men pragmatic sex machines.?


What do you think?

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 Dear FER,



Here’s a prime example of “Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus” offered by an English professor from the University of Phoenix


The professor told his class one day:



“Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. As homework tonight, one of you will write the first paragraph of a short story. You will e-mail your partner that paragraph and send another copy to me. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story and send it back, also sending another copy to me. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back-and-forth. Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. There is to be absolutely NO talking outside of the e-mails and anything you wish to say must be written in the e-mail. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached.”



The following was actually turned in by two of his English students:Rebecca (female) and Gary (male).

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THE STORY:

(first paragraph by Rebecca) At first, Laurie couldn’t decide which kind of tea she wanted. The chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked chamomile. But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So chamomile was out of the question.


 


(second paragraph by Gary)

Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. ” A.S. Harris to Geostation 17,” he said into his transgalactic communicator. “Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far…” But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship’s cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the cockpit.


(Rebecca)

He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4.”Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel,” Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth, when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspaper to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. “Why must one lose one’s innocence to become a woman?” she pondered wistfully.




Gary

Little did she know, but she had less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu’udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dim-witted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace disarmament Treaty through the congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu’udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the entire planet. With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion, which vaporized poor, stupid Laurie.


(Rebecca)

This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent,chauvinistic semi-literate adolescent.


(Gary)

Yeah? Well, my writing partner is a self-centered tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. “Oh, shall I have chamomile tea? Or shall I have some other sort of FREAKING TEA??? Oh no, what am I to do? I’m such an air headed bimbo who reads too many Danielle Steele novels!”


(Rebecca)

Jerk.


(Gary)

Idiot


(Rebecca)

YOU NEANDERTHAL!


(Gary)

Go drink some tea, sister.


 


 

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JOHN: That should be taken as a point differences! what could be a point for similarities? none?

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FER: The differences are attractive!

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Have you seen the play "Defending The Caveman"? It's a comedy but it represents  real ( serious;-)) differences between the two sexes. I've seen it twice in Slovenia.


http://www.defendingthecaveman.com/

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DEAR MATEJA: I haven't but that play  is here too!!! . I'll see it when I have time. thanks!!!

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MATEJASMOLAR says ...



FER: The differences are attractive!



MATEJA:  VERY ATTRACTIVE!!!!  

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I like what this guy has to say:


Men and women are from the same planet. We have to learn to accept this, and treat it as normal. They're not entirely different species. They are two sides of the same coin. They are two halves of the same apple.

Historians may go into the whole hunter gatherer thing. That back in the days of the caveman, men went out to beat up and kill things to win food for the family, and women stayed around the cave and gathered berries and edible roots and wood for the fire. Maybe that's where it started, but it's more complex than that. Our society is built upon millenia of restrictions and misguided assumptions. It is a largely patriarchal society in which men dominate most every industry and vocation. Until less than a hundred years or so ago, women were told to stay barefoot and pregnant and shut the hell up. Some men STILL feel this way about women, and some women STILL put up with it. These people perpetuate the incredible truckload of myths and false beliefs that we're still struggling with even today.


The situation is this. Men Hear. Women Listen. It's that simple. Men need to listen and think more, and women need to act more and think less.


Men don't usually look before they leap. They act first and then suffer the consequences later, unless they can find some way to avoid the consequences. Men need to focus more on cause and effect. They need to realize that their actions do affect their surroundings, and those they love. Sometimes the best way to prove one's manhood is to tip a hat to maturity and NOT act foolishly or impulsively.


Women generally think so much they sometimes forget to act at all, or talk themselves out of actions that would have been perfectly fine to do. I think this point right here is what drives men up the freaking wall more than anything. Women ask "Why?" Men just go "Why Not?"


And since John Gray's book Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus did absolutely nothing in the Big Picture to change the attitudes of the world's population, I don't suspect my little diatribe here's gonna make any difference. I mean, what the hell do I know? "Physician Heal Thyself" you might say. If I was right at all, theoretically I should be swimming in women, right?


But it's because I've given up trying. I used to think men just don't understand women. Nowadays I understand that I don't have to understand them. Men? For once, make them come to you. Okay? Stop this incessant stereotype where the guy has to ask the girl out. Just be yourself PLUS actually listen to what they have to say. Every now and then you'll find yourself on a date with a great babe and you won't even know how you got there. No muss no fuss.


Trust me. It's a lot more fun. 


 


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Men are frustrated with women because they never want sex.

My dear friend, I don't find your question about women and men love and sex is true..but everything is the contrary Women are frustrated with men because they always want sex.



Women blame men they don’t know how to love.

Men blame women that they only talk about love but don’t want to make it.



Whether you are a man or a woman, reading this article can change your life - finally, you will be able to get rid of your frustrations about the opposite gender.



The reason humans want sex is due to the hormone testosterone, which is predominantly male hormone. A normal male’s body produces 20 times more of this hormone than a female’s. 



In other words, a male feels the same way after one day without sex as a female after 20 days without sex. A male that has not had sex in 20 days feels the same way as a female after more than a year without sex.



Knowing this simple difference, you can already understand the pain of the opposite gender. It’s NOT their fault: they are made this way! It’s in our genes! This is the reason why men are men and women are women.



Men and women are DIFFERENT. 

Not better or worse, just different.



A man can father a child every time he has sex, and a woman can only mother a child every two years or so. This means, a woman HAS TO be picky about who she allows to have sex with her. 



For generations women were paying too high a price for making a wrong choice. Women that have chosen men with bad genes had a weaker offspring and their children struggled to survive. Women that have chosen men with good genes had a stronger offspring and their children survived disproportionally. Those children were carrying their picky mother’s genes and this is why those female genes were passed to us.



On the other hand, men never had adverse consequences of making a wrong choice. The more children they produced, the higher was their chance to pass their genes to future generations, as some of them would certainly survive. While men were determined to seek better genes too, they had to grab all chances to procreate coming their way to ensure their genes would be passed forward. The men that ONLY stuck with one woman (even a high quality woman) were losing genetically to the men that used all of their opportunities and had many more children that survived. Those children were carrying their father’s promiscuous genes, and this is why those male genes were passed to us.



By Nature men are made to seek as much sex as they can get, so they can spread their seed wider.



By Nature women are made to seek as many admirers as they can get, so they can make a better choice and get the best seed.



Men seek quantity - women seek quality.



This is why men seek sex and women seek love.



Love is the proof that a woman needs to have some assurance that the man will stick around and help her with the upbringing of the offspring. For a woman, sex is the culmination of her emotional commitment to a man.



For a man, sex is a physical act that eases the testosterone pressure he experiences constantly. Only after this tension has gone, can a man feel love towards a woman. This is why it often happens that men disappear after they got what they wanted: it wasn’t love; it was the testosterone pressure. Sex for men is the reality check of their passion. 



This is why having sex early in the relationship is hazardous for women: the man has not had the time to develop any romantic feelings for her. He needs time to develop those feelings, and the only way to do it is through keeping the sexual tension going for as long as practicable. Sex must be attainable, nearly possible - but not quite. When the sexual tension is at its peak, its release is mind-blowing - and once is never enough, which lays a proper foundation for a future relationship – and love.



Men fall in love through sex; women fall in sex through love.



All of this happens on the unconscious level - we do NOT realize what’s going on. 



But the reason why you are here today and alive is because each and every of your ancestors, men and women, acted true to their instincts and managed to attract at least one sexual partner and produce an offspring.



So, there is no need to be bitter about men wanting sex and women wanting love. Those two are the necessary pieces of the puzzle called Survival Of The Species.



And you’ll be better off understanding what the other gender is going through and giving them exactly what they want: a mind-blowing sex or exhilarating love.



Go get ‘em! :-)

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I was all set to reply to this post....then I read the existing replies.   Much of what I wanted to say, has been said.


I own several of those female/male relationship books, incl. Mars/Venus,and have studied them carefully.


The relationship book that has helped me the most is:   "The Power of Two".


It's a training guide teaching communication skills.

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 One thing I've learned is that when a woman tells you about a problem she's having, she isn't asking you to FIX IT (which is what we guys ALWAYS think); she just wants you to listen and commiserate.


And here are some "translations" of what many women sometimes say that men NEED to understand:



NINE WORDS WOMEN USE 

(1) Fine: This is the word women use to end an argument when they are right and you need to shut up.

(2) Five Minutes: If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

(3) Nothing: This is the calm before the storm. This means something, and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing usually end in fine.

(4) Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don’t Do It!

(5) Loud Sigh: This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you about nothing. (Refer back to # 3 for the meaning of nothing.)

(6) That’s Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women can make to a man. That’s okay means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.

(7) Thanks: A woman is thanking you, do not question, or faint. Just say you’re welcome. (I want to add in a clause here – This is true, unless she says ‘Thanks a lot’ – that is PURE sarcasm and she is not thanking you at all. DO NOT say ‘you’re welcome’ . that will bring on a ‘whatever’).

(8) Whatever: Is a woman’s way of saying SCREW YOU!

(9) Don’t worry about it, I got it: Another dangerous statement, meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times, but is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking ‘What’s wrong?’ For the woman’s response refer to # 3.


And here are ten things women need to know about men:


Top 10 Things All Women Need To Know About Men:



  1. We enjoy sports and need time to watch our sports.

  2. We are not mind readers, say what’s really on your mind.

  3. We need our time alone: guys night out, man cave…

  4. We need and desire sex.

  5. We want to be the leader and the protector… let us lead.

  6. When we say nothing is wrong, “Nothing is wrong” nothing means nothing!

  7. We don’t like shopping/looking with you… we like in-and-out shopping.

  8. We want to be respected and appreciated.

  9. We don’t remember many dates, maybe even special dates.

  10. We don’t like chick flix.


Of course, these are all generalizations - for example, I don't fit No. 1 since I don't like to watch sports (ANY sports) on TV. But, in the main, they sound pretty good to me.


Here are some more:


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/56991/top_ten_things_women...


 http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channe...


http://scanned.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/21-things-men-need-to-know-...


 



 

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Dearest John,


Your response is funny.......and it is not-so-funny, too.


And, that's "fine".


 


 


...refer to #1.


 


~debo


 


 

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JOHN: You forgot "I have a headache" that means don't even touch me!!

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John says:


One thing I've learned is that when a woman tells you about a problem she's having, she isn't asking you to FIX IT (which is what we guys ALWAYS think); she just wants you to listen and commiserate.


So true & typical, John! These are the cases when men usually feel under pressure and when/why all those little annoying arguments start.


I'm not so sure about the NINE WORDS, especially If translated in Slovene.