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Poll: Teaching Beyond Stereotypes
Poll: What did you thinking of teaching BEFORE you become a teacher?
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Posted 8 months ago Stereotypes....stink. Especially when they apply to your career path. While some stereotypes have shreads of truth, others are completely outdated. Have you ever been spoken to or treated in a way that played right into the stereotypes of teachers? A recent article, Is Teacher a Part-Time Job at Full-Time Wages forced me down memory lane.
A few years ago at one of my husband's work events, a person I just met asked me if I had fun being a teacher "playing all day" with kids. While teaching is fun, we definitely don't "play all day." A relative of mine (a distant one) said once before thinking, "those who can't do, teach." Ugh. I think I gave him a teacher look that made sure he wouldn't say that again.
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| Posted 8 months ago I usually say, "those who don't teach, shouldn't try to!" with a teeth-melting smile... My biggest problem with being stereo-typed is that my friends and family don't like to write to me... they could be embarrassed of their writing skills; penmanship, grammar, spelling, etc. Heck, I tell them that I don't give a flying hoot, I just want to hear from them.... but, they still seem to see me as "teacher" (probably the nightmare flashbacks of the teacher with the ruler in her hand making them do homework!)..and they think I'll be all judgemental on them... sheece! But, that's the little-box they put me into, and I feel stuck there. Thanks for this topic ~ good one!
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| Posted 8 months ago While I have heard all the stereotypes from the other posts I am pleased to announce that I don't really hear many of them directed at me.If anything I get a lot of praise when I tell people I teach at-risk kids. I often get "I couldn't do that!" or "good for you!" I think if I were to get anything negative in response to my job I would simply shrug and say, "teaching isn't for everyone!" One of the times I do tend to get grief is in terms of pay. I have gotten an "ouch" or "you don't do that for the money!!!" to which I say, "nope I do it because I love it." I don't take too much offense to it. People will think what they want about education. "Theres nothing like teaching students to make sure you have done YOUR homework." |
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| Posted 8 months ago OK, teaching's hard, probably harder than most other jobs. But, on the other hand, if you love doing it, well, the hard really isn't all that hard, if you get what I mean. I'd so much rather be doing a really hard job that I truly love than doing an really easy job that I don't like. Mom's secret of success: 1. Discover what it is you love to do. 2. Find someone who'll pay you to do it. |
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| Posted 8 months ago I have gotten, "You should know that. Aren't you a teacher?" |
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| Posted 8 months ago Dear dhastings, Kind of a backhanded compliment, really. |
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| Posted 8 months ago "You're so lucky to get off work at 3pm". "Yes, I'm so lucky to wake up at 5:30 am. It's marvelous". I think because we get off earlier in the day, people assume we're not working an 8 hour day. My boyfriend used to think I had an easy job, until I made him read some of my kids' research papers. He changed his mind. |
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| Posted 8 months ago You speak about teaching the grade school child. I teach early childhood. I now teach in a preschool but when I began teching. I worked in a child development center., teaching three and four year olds. My day started atarted at 8;00 am and ended at 5:00 pm. I ate with children, I prepared my lessons with the children while the napped ( or attempted to nap), and then cleaned up the room to start the again. The work is teaching, the is also enables the parents to work at their non teaching jobs. Now I have been doing this work for 20 years and I enjoy teaching young children. I also know it is stressfull, emotional, and physical. It is also joyful, heartwarming, creative, and fun to see such growth daily. It also sad when parents don't understand what you do,because we are not the teach, read, project , test , retest of the profession. I do enjoy my time off and my days at work. Lucy pre school of Two and Three year old ESL children
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| Posted 8 months ago How about "Oh, you're not a real teacher, just a substitute?" Or "Substitute? You mean babysitter..." I went through the same schooling, and have the same certification as the teachers for whom I substitute. I have been a (mostly) full-time substitute teacher for 5 years now, teaching EVERYTHING, including special education, Head Start preschool, PE, Band, K - 6, Junior High School, vocal music, and Library. No, I don't usually create lesson plans, unless I have a long-term assignment, but I have to instantly understand and be able to teach every subject at every grade level, and often have to pull a pertinent lesson out of thin air when an absent teacher is not prepared for a substitute. To have as many job assignments as possible, I teach a LOT of Junior High classes, where the expectation of the students is very often that the day will be a party day if there is a substitute teacher, while the expectation of the regular teacher is (rightly) that the planned lessons and classroom activities will continue as if they were in the room. The stress level can be intense. Any good teacher will tell you that one of the most important aspects of a well-run classroom, where behaviors are decent and learning happens, is the teacher's rapport with and understanding of the students. Imagine trying to teach classrooms full of students you do NOT know, day after day after day. And when I interview for full-time teaching positions, I often hear that I "don't have enough classroom experience" -- meaning as a full-time teacher with my own classroom. Remember, substitute teachers ONLY get paid for worked days. There are NO health or dental benefits, NO sick days, NO paid vacations. Summer vacation, winter break, spring break, and holidays are NOT paid. I supplement my income with medical transcription, office temping, retail sales, summer school teaching, and teaching extended learning programs throughout the year -- and still can barely live paycheck to paycheck. So in a financial sense, yes, I am indeed "Just a Sub" -- but in every other sense, I am a "real teacher", and the stereotype truly grates on my nerves. |
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| Posted 8 months ago When you think about it, no one would become anything without teachers to teach them, so I don't get why people don't think higher of teachers! |
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| Posted 8 months ago greenkelleen says ...
Greenkelleen, I'm with ya. Subbing is difficult work! You don't have the advantage of prior knowelege when it comes to the kids, and you may sign up for one subject and be asked to teach another when you get there! It's underpaid and undervalued, but without a good sub you can bet that learning will be disrupted.
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| Posted 8 months ago Nearly all of my life I have been teachhing somebody something. When it's in you, it's in you. My mother was a day care teacher. She was one of the first wave of the "Day Care 100" project of the late 60's/early 70's. I remember her going to school, studying, etc. We were on public assistance, living in the projects. I saw how Mommie, as much as she was not the "huggie kissie" person, though not cold -" ust don't be touchin' all over me!", sensitively dealt with the kids. It was like they were her own. I remember how she really got into teaching those 2, 3 and 4 year-olds. I saw how enthusiastically she would lead singing (she had a phenomenal voice - imagine Anita Baker as a soprano). Best of all, I saw how the children responded to her so readily. Then years later, in the 90's, those 2, 3, and 4 year-olds would call her out on the street as teens and twenty-somethings, and for a moment would become those 2,3 and 4 year-olds again. I surely hope they were not waiting for her to assist them with their "accidents". In fact it was during this time that I learned that an accident had something to do with dry clothing becoming wet, and clean underwear becoming, well, not-so-clean. Anyway at some point this inspired me. I wanted to have the rapport she had with her students. I wanted to be able to live knowing that I had affected my community by giving our next leaders and architects and police officers and clerks and secretaries and entrepreneurs skills or habits or knowledge that would improve not only them, but their communities, their families and their progeny. I "officially" taught for the first time when I was 19 or 20. I was working with an innovative music teaching program that traveled from school to school. I prepared by going to the local public library and spending hours pulling down books on teaching my subject. One of the first books I opened said that sometimes a teacher may only be one lesson ahead of her students as a teacher, but she must know her lesson material well enough to thoroughly teach that lesson. This comforted me, because while I was very good at what I did as a musician, I had never taught it. I am sorry, I went way beyond the question. Isn't that just like a ... . Perhaps from watching my mother, maybe from the preparations for the music experience, possibly the work that I put into preparation for sermons both when I was a senior pastor and now as a guest on occasion, more than likely all of the above and more, I have always appreciated the hard work that goes into simply PREPARING to bring a lesson, let alone TEACHING it. I have always seen teaching as no less difficult than any day I have spent working in any office - even as a real estate professional (for which I am a teacher as well). I am now back in school to finish preparation, aborted nearly 30 years ago, to serve in the classroom. I hope to finish by June, 2011.
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| Posted 7 months ago My cousin is an English teacher and she has to deal with students who think they can do it without her, who give her attitude and never really give her the respect she should be given. In fact, I've noticed most of my teachers have had to deal with students who are like that. I respect the difficulty that teachers have to endure day after day. They have to plan either the night or week before for the class' schedule, they have to go to meetings weekly or every other week, they have to deal with students and/or their parents who think their (child's) grade should be higher than it really is, taking home 120 plus papers daily to grade to get back to us either the next day or the day after, etc. etc. Most people only think of themselves and do not see the hardship there is in teaching. For my Senior Exit Project, I decided to shadow my cousin and I was able to teach infront of her class of Juniors'. Well actually, I read part of The Cruicible and gave them a worksheet and their new vocabulary words for the week. By the end of the class period, I was happy to sit down and have a moment to myself with nobody to criticize my movements. I enjoyed the experience and am glad I got a taste of what it is like to be a teacher, but I can't believe how many people still think it is so easy to do. It's public speaking for goodness sakes! Not many of us can be public speakers without being nervous can we? In all, I think teaching should be considered one of the hardest careers in the job field and all teachers should be given a teacher appreciation week or month. |
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| Posted 7 months ago RealtyPro: I agree. As a child I had desks set-up in our garage and all the neighborhood kids would come there to 'play school'...I was the teacher, of course. Later in life, whatever profession I found myself in (prior to getting my degree, certification, licensure, etc) I found myself teaching. However, there were no professional "teachers" in my young life. I'm the first in our family to graduate college. In college the lessons, presentations, leadership qualities were never an obstacle. I just followed my instincts. I'm a natural-born teacher; one who loved school for the wide array of information it made available to me.
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| Posted 7 months ago I have spent about 14 years as a secretary and just one year in the classroom teaching, and I have really learnt that teachers have a lot of work. The average 9-5 worker can leave his work and goes home, however, teachers sometimes have lesson plans to finish up, test papers to mark, projects to grade, etc etc, and in order to finish up, most of the times and even while they are home on 'holiday's they still have a lot of work to catch up on which cannot be completed in the time at school. They also have to do their 'homework'. So those who are talking need to just spend a few months in the classroom and unless they love teaching, they will run back to their jobs.
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| Posted 7 months ago There's one in every bunch. Individuals that ask for help then cringe with disbelief if I don't know the answer. (I don't know every answer that's why I google at least I can find the answer). They didn't know either, that's why they're asking me. And they seem to forget all the other times I knew the answer. _________________________________ Once upon a time, fresh out of computer repair, I worked along side the school tech. Teachers who remember that are always bombarding me with repair type questions. I often remind them that I no longer solve hardware problems I am on the software side now. I barely remember some of that stuff. But sometimes, when the tech is out, my boss sends me to other teacher's classrooms to see if I can "fix" a problem. In that instance, it doesn't matter...hardware or software I do every thing in my power to fix it (I love google) just to impress him...then the cycle continues. It really is a vicious cycle. __________________________________ Then there's the "I know how to do this, just help me to remember" person. They don't know. They've never done it, but they want your help without looking like they need it. You explain it, they insist that they can "take it from here", they do it wrong, then blame you. You can't win for losing -Mom |
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| Posted 7 months ago I hate the stereotypes we face, people think you don't that we do anything after 3:30. I say I am sorry I only work 60-70 hrs a week 40 at school and 20-30 prep at home. They look at you like you are crazy I wouldn't put in that for anything. I love the summers then I become the student!!! So school never stops for us. |
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| Posted 7 months ago Mr. Crisp, I know just what you mean about the way people look at you...when I tell people that I went to college for 14 years, they look at me strangely, too. I loved school. I miss the group conversations, the academic energy that flows, and the mental challenge presented by the teachers. I'd go back now if I could afford it! Have a delicious summer! |
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| Posted 7 months ago Thank you, I hope you have a great one aswell. |
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| Posted 6 months ago I think teaching is a calling and you must truly like children. I think teachers should be paid more than what the world thinks of them. However, I think they must prove that they are worthy of pay. Let see I think of teaching profession the same way i do as the medical profession. However, it should be at a higher degree...why, because who taught Micheal Jordan, who taught Warren Buffett, Who taught Oprah Winfrey, who educated the Doctor? No one but a teacher. A teacher is many things to many people she is a social worker, she is a mother, she is a disciplinarinian, she is a doctor, she is a counselor, she is a listener, she can also be a target for the upper school board to attack when test scores are down. Yet, I am not a teacher and I am aspiring to become one...However, i have encounter in primary school, secondary school, and college Good Teachers, Great Teacher, and just plain awful teacher.....What set a Good or Great teacher from the rest networking skills, dedication to her learning new ways to inspire children to want to learn. Making the lesson hands on and sometimes lecturing about roles in society. What makes a teacher awful....I have my education and you have to get yours...just happy with getting a pay check. Teachers who do not feel they have a voice.....teacher who are happy with not trying to make the school better waiting on retirement. I think the role that teacher have in life is the inital way students are going to perceive the world....I remember Ms. Shackleford...she was a teacher that taught me poems like "If" or Don't quit.....I had to memorize it and know it in her Social Studies class....I thought she was completely crazy....Yet, it is inside of me to this day. It is hard to become a teacher so the ones who go above and beyond make a difference I am a down to earth person. I love to have friends over and talk about life. I love to cook and have friends over. I enjoy planning weddings and parties. My most favorite thing is to go to the SPA...it is a deal breaker for me |
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| Posted 6 months ago Don't quit is one of my favorite poems. I got it as a wedding present 10 years ago. Sometimes I think it is one of the things that has saved my marrage at times. |
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| Posted 5 months ago I've often wished that the news documentary show, "48 Hours" would follow the life of a real teacher so the general public could get an authentic glimpse into the daily demands of professional teachers. Too many people see only the obvious: that we are off in the summer and we work with children. They don't come inside the school building to watch teachers in action, to observe the myriad of challenges or the incredible obstacles we face. I address several misconceptions about the teaching profession in my blog post, http://edutwist.com/elin/2009/03/myths-about-teaching/ One of them is that teaching is easy because it's a lot like babysitting... and what's hard about babysitting? Being adults, most critics forget that children are not an easy audience; their attention and personal needs are slippery and unpredictable, and we teach 20-30 at a time for several hours at a time. And we aren't just sitting with them; we aren't entertaining them -- we're engaging them in lessons to learn material that they often have no desire to learn but that society says they must. It takes skill, insight, expert content knowledge, and strategic planning (outside of classroom hours) to develop lessons and materials that will not only teach a topic but also make it personally relevant and interesting to a child who would rather be playing. We are experts at exciting the curiosity and at making connections. Many people in the corporate "real" world of careers would not be able to do this successfully. This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to misunderstandings about the teaching profession. Sit down and talk with me sometime if you're a critic of teachers. Come into my world for a day or a week. You'll feel exhaustion and be humbled, because you will see that in spite of its diffiicult challenges, teaching offers intrinsic, long-lasting rewards. It promotes humanity rather than profits. It's all worth it. |
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| Posted 5 months ago If someone makes an ill-informed comment about teaching, I usually reply with "you seem pretty smart, why don't you become a teacher? You might be able to the job." I also like to point out that most of my friends made fun of me when I became a teacher 26 years ago because the pay was so poor.. I always say now, what I gave up in bonuses I got in time. When people say I have summers off, I talk about all the curriclum work and planning I do over the summer-no teacher doesn't work over the summer.
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